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  What would make an Ex-Jw go back to been a full in Baptized JW

  by LOLS in

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  i was just wondering , why would my jw husband return to been a full blown baptized jw after 20 years of fading?.

  he has spent 20 years of his life been a worldly person , with a worldly wife & kids & worldly friends .... to joining the borg full time , to getting baptized , to getting new brothers & sisters .... and to writing off most of his worldly friends (some his known his whole life ) , to trying to convince me & our children how wonderful this org is ......and anyone else who will listen :(.

  has anyone ever experienced this ...... oh and he seems to be in it 110% and no-one can say anything about this crazy org or show him proof that it all bs...... his such a clever independent , successful guy , why on earth would he go back to this , after been out for so many years & change into this domineering , opinionated fool ..... oh and his entire family also went back ... father , mother , brother & sister .

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  silas hobbs

  How true. its a failure to de-program oneself while out. He probably never felt the need to really see the Org. for what is is,,just another quirky religion at best and a harmful cult at its worst,

  I remember one Assy. experience of a couple who returned to the Org. saying that they always knew it still was the truth before they returned,,sounds like he had the same problem.Or it could be he has never been treated badly while in and succumed to intense" Love Bombing" when returning. I know it feels good to be the subject of such attention but that does not make it any less of a cult.While I was in the process of decoupling from the Org. I listened to a radio show while driving called Dr. Joy Brown she was a Psychologist and a good one but one of the things she said was that change rarely occurs unless people are forced too by events which make their current status in life too uncomfortable to continue as it is and only then do they change. It sounded like what I was experiencing.Who knows.
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  Suicides

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.

  some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.

  some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.

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  silas hobbs

  Having just finished reading James Pentons "Apocalypse Delayed" 3rd. edition, He did not seem to have any problem naming names both in good standing and otherwise..

  I did appreciate his controlled,scholarly approach but there were places in the book you feel his anger almost smoking hot

  I feel and understand your anger,,mine runs deep. Just .an example of what fuels mine is when my beloved grandaughter was molested by her jw step father , he used the excuse that the 11 year old came on to him .Were the elders outraged at such an excuse? far from it ,one accused her of being a Dinah influence on the ex.

  I could do some pretty bad things to those frauds,, I certainly think bad things and at times get pretty riled up.

  I know some of those names ,those from Seattle and am glad to see that their blinders are slipping.

  Hope you have success ,minimize the colateral damage.
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  Do you think Ruthaford is buried at Beth Sharim?

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no one really knows where ruthaford is buried.

  there is some word of mouth evidence that he is buried under the garage of beth sarim.

  i think he is under the garage.

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  silas hobbs

  I am just reading the third edition [ 2015] of Penton's book , Apocalypse Delayed, and he deals with that episode of Beth Sar-Sarim and the efforts to bury him there which were shot down by San Diego City Hall. After losing that battle his remains were sent to Rossville,New York and buried there.

  After reading Penton's book I am shaking my head and wondering how I ever got involved with this group.

  Although in fairness it did act like a 12 step program for me. Jerked a knot in my bad habits and helped me to walk straight but that is no excuse for their dictatorship of the mind and soul that they exercise over their followers.
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  A & E documentary - family fall-out

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just seen this on exjw reddit - sickening beyond belief!.

  long story short, we have not seen hubbys non identical twin nephews (jeremey and jerome) since we gave the middle finger to the jw's 7 or 8 years ago.

  we last saw our nephews when they were 9 or 10ish.

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  silas hobbs

  Yes, it really happens. I did it to my oldest daughter who at 17 said she wanted nothing to do with the religion.Her biggest mistake was that she was baptized at 14 ,,before she read the fine print as to the implications of being a baptized JW. This was done after a demo at a CA which had a family who had a daughter who wanted out and the parents said that " This is a Christian Household and any who did not abide by their values could not live their".

  Looking back I hate that person that I was,,brainwashed into beliveing their claptrap, putting those bastards ahead of my family. 8 years latter I woke up and left ,fortunently my wife also woke up. My daughter came home 2 years later and was reinstated. She is now out of the religion with her kids and returned to school becoming a RN now working on her MSN

  I have apologized to her and she assures us of her forgiveness but my heart still condemns me for doing such things.

  I have told former friends that I would never put religion above family and as such they consider me as the villian for leaving that horrible religion.
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  social media verbotten??

  by silas hobbs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was just doing a little trip down memory lane,,,,looking up old "friends" on facebook.

  i looks like they are no longer on social media sites.

  has the wt came down hard on this activity lately?.

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  silas hobbs

  Was just doing a little trip down memory lane,,,,looking up old "friends" on facebook. I looks like they are no longer on social media sites. Has the WT came down hard on this activity lately?
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  They have a point...

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week in the sunday meeting a sister made a comment and collapsed, a massive heart attack.

  one of the young brothers is a fireman and he gave her mouth mouth and according to the doctor this saved her life.

  so if she had missed the meeting that day she would have surly died because her husband is not in great health.

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  silas hobbs

  Really ??? tell that to the many true life experiences of those going to the KH only to be killed in some way. Or for example some years ago the cong. in Columbia that was destroyed with all who attended that nights meeting.

  These were all covered in the mags in some way.
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  CO working at Walmart

  by the girl next door in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it just took me by surprise.

  i remember him from a decade or so ago.

  he came up with gems like, “weddings are for women, they are not necessary.” also, “if you want to be truly happy, marry an ugly woman.”.

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  silas hobbs

  I understand that some might see the big picture tragedy of these former "glorius ones' who are now brought low but I think it might be a matter of Cosmic Karma smacking them .I can thank of more then a few former CO's brought low,, Bro. Peter Michas singing for his supper after he left circuit work due to heart problems,often he told his story of his talent as a budding opera /career given up for the trooth.Bro Spangenberg same thing,, medical problems took him out, only to have to gather crumbs for a living. Bro. Gwaltney now driving a school bus with his wife working the cosmetic counters at Nordstrom. Bro.Baxter ,living now at a KH apt.someone else doing the heavy lifting finiancialy speaking. and many more thwarted in their hope to be princes in all the earth ,men of power.I think they deserve to be where the are now.

  Most of these men were not good humans, they abused the little people in the KH, they may have felt they were doing Gods Will,being used by the holy spirit but now it only makes want to spit thinking of how they were treated like mini gods while treating rank and file like dirt.
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  My 71st Birthday Confessional

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
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  i was born january 15, 1947in mt.

  carmel hospital, detroit, michigan.. within six months of my birth, my mother would bundle her baby boy into a blanket and board an american airlines propeller-driven plane--in effect, leaving my father behind--to return to her hometown, ft. worth, texas.. my dad had an excellent job working for cadillac as an inspector.

  it was a union job.

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  silas hobbs

  Love reading your posts. I lasted from 1973 to 2002 at which time the wife and I went AWOL.

  We have 3 daughters, one of which is still in and active, they live in your neck of the woods,,Dallas

  We have all managed to leave by the backdoor so to speak so the Dallas daughter and her hubby are willing to overlook our failure to partiscipate .

  Be Happy
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  Favorite/least favorite CO's and DO's

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i posted this thread sometime last year but thought i would revive it due to the new ones on the board, and to change things up a bit.

  my favorite?

  bro murikami, from hawaii, very humble, kind bro.

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  silas hobbs

  It was CO Baxter for me.

  My oldest daughter left home , got pregnant and asked to come back home. She came home and had the baby a beautiful girl well I knew there would be problems,,,you know an appointed man having this going on in ones on house. Sure enough Baxter described my situation to a tee at an elders mtg. without mentioning my name.he called it indirect counseling, and saying that such a man would have to have his qualifications examined.

  I told the PO it was me he was talking about and he responded whether I wanted to go through that an I said no so he said let it go. He was a great guy ,,Bro Henderson thanks to you on that day I got angry enough at the org.to start my research on their history eventually leading me here.

  By the way my granddaughter is going to ASU on schlorship
  
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  Jehovahs Witnesses and Conditional Love

  by Christian Gutierrez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a hey guys this is a short story of a witness who could never find unconditional love kfrom the congregation and family members.

  cheers!!!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjv5pdkqicm.

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  silas hobbs

  yea, its like their view of the " bible trained conscience". it can change on a dime.